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Honestly the gun is even better now since they fixed the ergonomics passive.

It needs a larger magazine I run out of ammo all the time with this gun

Nobody uses the Purifier right, people keep using it like it's some railgun variant of the Scorcher. It's a lot more like a long-range Arc Rifle, being able to stunlock small groups of light to medium enemies at a distance, with an almost identical charge-fire cadence as the Arc Rifle.

The comments continue to prove that nobody actually understands how to balance a loadout as they don't understand that every primary has weaknesses that need to be compensated for

Incels always complain about something! 😂😂😂

I heard it’s going to be very good against illuminates… Shields care about how many times you hit them and not how hard. Same for the throwing knife - goes right through a Helldiver’s personal shield backpack. Gonna go through illu shields too 👀

I think arrowhead forgot about the liberator penetrator lmao

It's a Liberator with ~+50% damage, -33% mag size, and -33% recoil. It's about the same total damage per mag; it just gets it out there faster. Reload speed is 10% slower. In the end, it's a straight upgrade to the Liberator.

I just went from being a constant loser to 11-8-5-1. Thanks Dr. Pooplove!!

It eats ammo more than any other primary I feel like. Especially w the removal of THREE extra magazines, and 5 bullets. I just can’t use it bc of those reasons

Anything this shit can do the ajudicator can do faster using less bullets and with med armor pen...

I was really hoping this would function like an smg. Specifically in regards to firing behind you while sprinting, and allowing you to carry stuff with it. Just make the recoil debuff go up even higher in these situations cause you’re only one handing it, but it should still be doable

I still wish we got a bow weapon in this warbond. Would kinda fit the jungle elite vibe imo, could have it charge to fire like the Purifier and have separate ammo types for trick arrows(piercing for high raw damage, corrosive gas like a budget Orbital Gas Strike, and stun like a Stun Grenade)

I think you're seriously missing out if you don't use the burst mode. It solves the recoil and ammo issues and you can essentially treat it like a semi auto DMR. 2 burst take out all small enemies with light amor and if you need more rounds just keep clicking 😂

Short answer. Yes

Its not the magazine size, yeah the ammo goes quick but where it really lacks is the RELOAD SPEED, the BR-14 Adjudicator reloads faster, if there is 1 final tweak to get this gun "on point" its that its reload speed needs to be as fast as the Liberator Penetrator, getting that reload time down would turn this gun into a A+ tier weapon against the bugs.

Give me two more mags and this thing is my go to allways. Its so much fun

I think the strength of the base Liberator is it's adaptability. It isn't as good at crowd management as the Carbine, but the moderate zoom on the scope and burst fire make it a pretty decent battle rifle.

I can't say I've felt it be really effective against bots, but it's not bad either at-range within that 50m. If only it had a bit more stagger ability, it'd be good enough without overshadowing the Pummeler.

The 8th mag is the one in the gun? You can have a full magazine and that number still say zero. It just means you're out of additional mags.

It's absolute garbage lol

What a glow up. Its super fast And it hits like a super destroyer. Id say this is the goden standard for ARs from now on

I would have loved to see them expand on the one handed firearms outside the secondaries. Much like the defender smg.

It is certainly better than it was but... like the rest of the rifles it still feels anemic overall and I wish it still got medium pen, I mean we already got 3 (7 if you include the Diligence, Sickle, Scythe and Scorcher) other "rifles" with light pen, did we really need another? As of now we've only got 2 medium pen (4 if you include the Diligence CS and Dominator) rifles would another one really have hurt all that much? As for the rifles in general I think a better way to get them on par with the other firearms, would be instead of buffing the overall damage they should just buff the durable damage quite a bit, I think it would make them feel like they have more of a punch per round compared to say the multiple tick per shot damage by volume of say the shotguns. Which would make sense given the rifles likely shoot a 5.56x45mm or 7.62x51mm equivalents respectively and those rounds are designed to penetrate rather significantly, compared to say buckshot which is likely what the shotguns are throwing out (minus the Slugger of course), I think that would be a good compromise for their use case when picking a loadout.

Best parts of Viper Commandos Warbond for me have been the Experimental Infusion booster and the SG-22 Bushwhacker side-arm. I also like all of the cosmetic additions that are part of it.

So pretty much mediocre weapon. Hive guard = fire shotgun will kill it with fire. Same for shriekers. And it kills brood commanders and stalkers nicely. And little guys will die from either gun. Close combat carbine with tiny punch. I used it on forest, it was ok, but didn't felt as a great weapon. I felt it needs bigger ammo clip. As for warbond itself. Waste of $$$. I don't think I even use anything from it. Or planning to. Booster is nice maybe.

The Tenderizer absolutely shreds bots after the patch. It's now my main primary against bots, replacing the Liberator. Yes, the Liberator. That default assault rifle is actually a very competent primary weapon, even right up to level 9 difficulty, provided you pair it with the right support weapon (AMR, Autocannon). And you have to play to its strengths (it can clear an entire patrol of chaff troopers in one mag if your aim is on point).

how does it compare to the breaker incendiary......

150m+ and lived, that's not necessarily what you wanted, but it's something

literally pointless primary (liberator was previously running third for "AR"/rapid-fire tier now it's closer to 5th), a "grenade" option with NO BOOM and unreliable angle-of-fire an admittedly tasty boomstick, booster that's handy in group-runs for pivoting around the rick-points (the stamina boost is more useful/reliable most other times, same for vitality) and some skins i don't hate. But why is the medium armour a cash-shop item? That's the one thing i find egregious. yes the carbine is "better" than the lib but the tenderiser, ajudicator (semi-auto mode) and both defender variants are better than the entire liberator family. that's before taking the non-full-auto options into account which are 95% of the time way more efficient on-map.

Hold on, the AR-61 has stagger? I USE IT ALL THE TIME NOW AND IT DOESN'T STAGGER. I really like this rifle tho, it's my new main rifle. For heavy armor I just use Autocannon. I really like having the flexibility of being a frontline fighter and ranged support role. It's accurate and has good zoom. I take it vs the bots too and it's very nice in my hands.

Viper Commando is a flop XD

As an AR, it's good enough. However, the best weapon for bug is still automatic shotgun (for quickly take down swarms of small enemies). And the best weapon for bots is still explosive weapons (for anti-medium armor and weakpoints). AR is just at an awkward position as a whole weapon class.

If you throw it in burst, it's just the Halo 3 BR.

I really like it. The recoil of 10 is great. Reload is kinda long, though.

Why would people try take your supplies😂

I feel like it's trying to be the knight smg, but a little worse lol

When you said "Dr. Pooplove here" and I looked down and saw that was actually your name made me laugh

Base liberator is fine, because it's the general troop weapon. You shouldn't have the best to start, it's a solid start weapon for a new troop.

The Fire Breaker is still way more effective against bugs. Carbine is fun, but not viable in meta/high difficulties, especially for the small magazine size. Good video though! Subscribed 😊

I like the base liberator vs the bots.

Sounds like the pummeler smg is better

“A soul (the pummeler) for a soul (the tenderizer)” -some weird guy with a cloak.

Its better than it was, but there's still no reason to use any AR over the Sickle. Even the adjudicator with its medium pen, it's nice on paper, but having to mag dump one single medium enemy to kill it is still atrocious. Every AR needs at least 10 more rounds per mag and 20-30 more damage to even be decent

Can we all just agree that the pummeler should be given back its stagger for medium sized enemies?

i believe hell divers has run its course. unless something changes i doubt ill play the game again which im not even sure what that "something" might be

I've been running the tenderizer recently on semi-auto, and it's actually been a dream with how good it is at recoil control, and good damage per shot!

Fighting bugs with this thing on full auto makes me feel like one of Rico’s roughnecks. Dashing cover to cover and firing quick bursts at bots makes me feel like I’ve just dropped feet first into hell, a real walk in the woods. I love this gun, and I held out hope that they’d buff it after that botched initial release. I’m so thankful that it’s fun to use now.

I want my stagger back on the Slugger... god I loved that gun... then they removed tits stagger and made it useless

Needs a 60 round mag to be viable in upper levels